Wednesday, March 12, 1997 4:00:01 AM
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  From:          The Hotline Users Mailing,Hotline@lists.fwparker.org,Internet
  Subject:   The Hotline Users Digest #57 - 03/12/97
  To:            Geoff Le Feuvre
                 The Hotline Users Mailing List <Hotline@lists.fwparker.org>,Internet
The Hotline Users Digest #57 - Wednesday, March 12, 1997

  Re: Bounced Mail Digest - 03/11/97
          by  Philipp Conrad <phil@theconrads.com>
  Re: Files
          by  Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>
  Re: Hotline Server Questions
          by  Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>
  Re: Suggestions
          by  Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>
  Cable modems and Hotline
          by  James <jamez@v-wave.com>
  Hotline Server Logs
          by  Zorkian <zorkian@earthling.net>
  Re: Hotline Server Logs
          by  Burn <rcovert@wolfenet.com>
  Re: Hotline Server Logs
          by  Zorkian <zorkian@earthling.net>
  Re: Hotline Server Logs
          by  Burn <rcovert@wolfenet.com>
  Re: Cable modems and Hotline
          by  Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>


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Subject: Re: Bounced Mail Digest - 03/11/97
From: Philipp Conrad <phil@theconrads.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 23:31:20 -0600

this seems pretty major.....  have you been taking care of things... I've 
been getting about two of these everyday.

let me know if you think it has anything to do with 1.1b1 and I'll take a 
look into it.


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 |   "Being diplomatic is like   |           Philipp Conrad           |
 |   saying 'nice doggy' until   |   http://www.tezcat.com/~cowboy/   |
 |   you can find a stick."      |         cowboy@tezcat.com          |
 |               - Takedown      |        phil@theconrads.com         |
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Subject: Re: Files
From: Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 17:05:04 +1100

>Just do it like Exite. The server creats an index of the files and 
>comments, and as uploads are made it just adds on to the index, that way 
>it doesn't have to re-write the whole thing.

easier said than done.

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/ | | |                     Adam Hinkley
| |_| |                     CEO/Software Development
|  _  | O T L I N E
| | | |COMMUNICATIONS       hinks@netspace.net.au
|_| | |                     http://netspace.net.au/~hinks/
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Subject: Re: Hotline Server Questions
From: Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 17:09:06 +1100

>1.	I have a Hotline Server on an Intranet running on a 68K Machine.
>When I run the Hotline Tracker (v 1.0) at the same time on the same
>machine, the server starts to do what B19 did (the server will work fine
>for a little while, then slow to a crawl for a while, then work fine, etc.)
>Is there any solution?  Will B21 fix the problem?

There are two solutions:

1) tell apple to hurry up and make a pre-emptively multi-tasked OS

2) buy a faster mac

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/ | | |                     Adam Hinkley
| |_| |                     CEO/Software Development
|  _  | O T L I N E
| | | |COMMUNICATIONS       hinks@netspace.net.au
|_| | |                     http://netspace.net.au/~hinks/
    |/


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Subject: Re: Suggestions
From: Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 17:11:30 +1100

>No, not if the other server was on the same line. But if the servers were 
>on separate lines, the bandwidth would be increased. For instance, I work 
>at a university, so it would be a simple matter to put up two servers at 
>different locations and on separate T1 lines. Then, all of the file 
>transfers to the second server dont take up any of the bandwidth of the 
>main server. The same could be done by two friends at different locations 
>who wanted to put up a server. 

Then run two servers with the same files.  Or put all the files on one 
server, and chat and news on the other server.

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/ | | |                     Adam Hinkley
| |_| |                     CEO/Software Development
|  _  | O T L I N E
| | | |COMMUNICATIONS       hinks@netspace.net.au
|_| | |                     http://netspace.net.au/~hinks/
    |/


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Subject: Cable modems and Hotline
From: James <jamez@v-wave.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:53:14 -0700

 Cable modems are 50 bucks a month, mind you its in canada..

Are there future plans to make a Hotline "Gateway"...? like having multiple
servers gated so all the files are up to date on all the servers...
                                           -thanks James..



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Subject: Hotline Server Logs
From: Zorkian <zorkian@earthling.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 02:00:42 -0500

It would be nice if there were a feature or option to have the server 
either retain or archive to a text file the server log instead of 
deleting entires after 12 hours or whatever the time limit is.

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Subject: Re: Hotline Server Logs
From: Burn <rcovert@wolfenet.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:05:18 -0800

>It would be nice if there were a feature or option to have the server
>either retain or archive to a text file the server log instead of
>deleting entires after 12 hours or whatever the time limit is.

In b21, there is an option to log downloads to a text file and log uploads
to another text file.  Now, all we need is b21.  :-)


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/ | | |                     Trevor Covert
| |_| |                     Macline, File Management
|  _  | O T L I N E         trevor@HotlineSW.com
| | | |COMMUNICATIONS
|_| | |
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Subject: Re: Hotline Server Logs
From: Zorkian <zorkian@earthling.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 02:12:53 -0500

>Now, all we need is b21.  :-)

I hope we get it sooner than we got Copland... ;)

(hinks, don't u have a compiler at home??)

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Subject: Re: Hotline Server Logs
From: Burn <rcovert@wolfenet.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:17:04 -0800

>>Now, all we need is b21.  :-)
>
>I hope we get it sooner than we got Copland... ;)
>
>(hinks, don't u have a compiler at home??)

hinks still has some stuff to do.  He is fixing some stuff with files,
fixing a few bugs, and then releasing.  It shouldn't take long.  Adam
Hinkley will take no more questions today.  <I feel like his spokesperson
on Macline, but I'M NOT!  I'M NOT!>


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/ | | |                     Trevor Covert
| |_| |                     Macline, File Management
|  _  | O T L I N E         trevor@HotlineSW.com
| | | |COMMUNICATIONS
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    |/



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Subject: Re: Cable modems and Hotline
From: Adam Hinkley <hinks@netspace.net.au>
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 19:20:32 +1100

>Are there future plans to make a Hotline "Gateway"...? like having multiple
>servers gated so all the files are up to date on all the servers...

For files, I have a separate product in mind that would mirror or 
syncronize two folders on different computers.

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/ | | |                     Adam Hinkley
| |_| |                     CEO/Software Development
|  _  | O T L I N E
| | | |COMMUNICATIONS       hinks@netspace.net.au
|_| | |                     http://netspace.net.au/~hinks/
    |/


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