Tuesday, February 11, 1997 4:00:01 AM Message From: The Hotline Users Mailing,Hotline@lists.fwparker.org,Internet Subject: The Hotline Users Digest #37 - 02/11/97 To: Geoff Le Feuvre The Hotline Users Mailing List ,Internet The Hotline Users Digest #37 - Tuesday, February 11, 1997 Hey Cheesy by Re: Hey Cheesy by Phil Hilton Re: Hey Cheesy by Bill Manning Re: Hey Cheesy by Re: IF YOU WANTED b20 by mail by Kevin Ying ook, trouble subscribing to the HotlineSW distribution lists.... by Phil Hilton Re: IF YOU WANTED b20 by mail by Adam Hinkley Re: if you want b20 by mail by mchojnac *** MACLINE NEEDS YOUR HELP *** by Phil Hilton ok, try now! :) by Phil Hilton Hotline b20 by email by Garry Z. Olah GETTING B20 BY MAIL by Adam Hinkley Re: Totally new idea!!! by Noah Daniels Re: Totally new idea!!! by ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hey Cheesy From: pramsey@mail.tds.net Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:55:28 -0400 I can't get that HL mailing list to work,the one for getting future versions. I get a error saying commands not understood. -togtog - - - - __ __ | | | | __| |__ ________ ________ __| |__ ________ ________ |__ __| | ____ | | ____ | |__ __| | ____ | | ____ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ---- | | ---- | | | | ---- | | ---- | --- -------- ------| | --- -------- ------| | __ | | __ | | \ \__| | \ \__| | \____| \____| pramsey@mail.tds.net togtog@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Hey Cheesy From: Phil Hilton Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:04:10 -0500 >I can't get that HL mailing list to work,the one for getting future versions. >I get a error saying commands not understood. A: try sending the commands one at a time (a sperate msg for each subscribe command) B: make sure your signature is turned off. That will confuse it. And I'd like to point out right now, that i will NOT subscribe people by hand, that defeats the ENTIRE purpose, of having a high quality listserv app. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Hey Cheesy From: Bill Manning Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:37:49 -0700 Phil Hilton wrote: > > >I can't get that HL mailing list to work,the one for getting future versions. > >I get a error saying commands not understood. I'm having the same problem... (I am submiting the requests correctly) --Bill Manning Apeleon Internet Services ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Hey Cheesy From: pramsey@mail.tds.net Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:41:05 -0400 >A: try sending the commands one at a time (a sperate msg for each subscribe >command) > >B: make sure your signature is turned off. That will confuse it. Ok, thats what must have did it, thanx! - - - - __ __ | | | | __| |__ ________ ________ __| |__ ________ ________ |__ __| | ____ | | ____ | |__ __| | ____ | | ____ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ---- | | ---- | | | | ---- | | ---- | --- -------- ------| | --- -------- ------| | __ | | __ | | \ \__| | \ \__| | \____| \____| pramsey@mail.tds.net togtog@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: IF YOU WANTED b20 by mail From: Kevin Ying Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:57:56 +0900 (JST) The only PPC specific list I was successful in subscribing to was the HotlineClientPPC. The others were sent identically with on the keyword of "Client" changed to "Serv" and "Track" on each individual request. They were returned with a RTFM messages from LetterRip. On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Adam Hinkley wrote: > Okay, Cheesy has created new mailing lists for distributing Hotline. > > If you mailed me saying you wanted b20 my mail, please send a message to: > > requests@lists.fwparker.org > > And include one or more of these commands in the body of the message: > > Subscribe HotlineClientPPC > Subscribe HotlineClient68K > Subscribe HotlineServPPC > Subscribe HotlineServ68K > Subscribe HotlineTrackPPC > Subscribe HotlineTrack68K ~~~ Kevin Ying Medical Bank Institute Chief System Administrator INAC Building, 5-18-23 Roppongi kevin@medbank.or.jp Minato-ku, Tokyo 106, Japan (voice) 81-3-5570-7000 (fax) 81-3-5570-7100 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: ook, trouble subscribing to the HotlineSW distribution lists.... From: Phil Hilton Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:00:15 -0500 I tried it, and have recieved the same problems as others.... Hinks, do em by hend this time, I'll make sure it's working by b21 or Final 1.1 (whichever the next is) Sorry guys.. this shouldn't have happened..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: IF YOU WANTED b20 by mail From: Adam Hinkley Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 14:47:39 +1100 >The only PPC specific list I was successful in subscribing to was the >HotlineClientPPC. The others were sent identically with on the keyword >of "Client" changed to "Serv" and "Track" on each individual request. I think you have to put each Subscribe in a SEPARATE email message. ____________________________________________________________________ Adam Hinkley, developer of Hotline ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: if you want b20 by mail From: mchojnac Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 22:55:18 -0500 >However, if you want b20 and future versions automatically mailed to you >as soon as they're released, let me know. Tell me what versions you >want or I'll ignore your message. Just tick the boxes you want: > >[ ] Hotline Client 68K >[X] Hotline Client PPC b20 >[ ] Hotline Server 68K >[X] Hotline Server PPC b20 >[ ] Hotline Tracker 68K >[ ] Hotline Tracker PPC > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: *** MACLINE NEEDS YOUR HELP *** From: Phil Hilton Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:20:48 -0500 *** MACLINE NEEDS YOUR HELP *** As Macline begins to expand and grow we begin to picture ourselves in the future. If you feel like helping the Macline effort in other ways than just uploading files, here are some ways: If you decide to help in any of these ways, please email the team at < 1) Donate some hardware!! Everything from big hard disks, CD-ROM drives, Systems, RAM, etc. 2) $$$! We are looking into buying another computer, just for Macline only..... dedicated. We need to raise about $1000 to do this. 3) Offer us some kick-ass bandwidth for free! :-) 4) Give us hugs! (All the funny names with the "ML" icons) 5) Register your copy of Hotline with Hinks. We are being seious here... we can't stay locked in the closet at my high-school forever. We want bandwidth, we want power, we want this to be the best Macintosh BBS anywhere!! The OMUG!! OFFICIAL Macintosh User Group... the HMUG, Hotline Macintosh User Group... AND the BMUG, Best Macintosh User Group. :-) Thanks for paying attention to my blabbering keyboard and clumsy spelling mistakes... I'm sure you got a good laugh out of it. Did I mention that contributors to Macline will be given a special "ML" contributor icon and considered for Admin positions!?!?! Cool huh. Phil Hilton (Cheesy) - Co-Macline Admin _______________________________________________________________ ********************************************* * __ __ _ _ * * | \/ | __ _ ___| (_)_ __ ___ * * | |\/| |/ _` |/ __| | | '_ \ / _ \ * * | | | | (_| | (__| | | | | | __/ * * |_| |_|\__,_|\___|_|_|_| |_|\___| * * ---------------------------------- * * - The OFFICIAL Macintosh Hotline Server - * * (http://macline.fwparker.org) * * * * macline@macline.fwparker.org * * * ********************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: ok, try now! :) From: Phil Hilton Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:24:33 -0500 The lists Hotline Distribution lists should be working now... It would take WAY too long to explain here why it wasn't...... well, it was the fault of many things actually... I'll make a list... A: Our ethernet card has been having mood swings lately... (i think shes pregnant with the logic boards daughter board.....) B: I think our copy of letterrip is a bit upset at the number of unnesecary posts to the lists... C: IT'S GETTING COLD IN CHICAGO! (you probly don't understand much either when YOUR cold....) D: Macline is now hosting a tracker. (hey, I have to find SOME way to blame this on hinks! hehe) E: Ther is no "E", it just fits REALLY well after "D" F: yup. you guesed it! no "F" either! G: aHA! I FOOLED YOU! there IS A "G"!!!! :P "G" is to announe that there will be an "H"... H: "H" is too announce that none of the previously mentioned things contributed to the failing of the listserv... In fact, it was entirely ZINI'S FAULT!!!! I: well, ok. it was MY FAULT! THERE I SAID IT!!! I made the lists, but forgot to assign them each a text document in which to store the adresses.. DOH! Should work now..... *** Cheesy looks away in shame.... Phil Hilton (Cheesy) - Co-Macline Admin _______________________________________________________________ ********************************************* * __ __ _ _ * * | \/ | __ _ ___| (_)_ __ ___ * * | |\/| |/ _` |/ __| | | '_ \ / _ \ * * | | | | (_| | (__| | | | | | __/ * * |_| |_|\__,_|\___|_|_|_| |_|\___| * * ---------------------------------- * * - The OFFICIAL Macintosh Hotline Server - * * (http://macline.fwparker.org) * * * * macline@macline.fwparker.org * * * ********************************************* ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hotline b20 by email From: "Garry Z. Olah" Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:49:19 -0600 Please Send b20 when ready [X] Hotline Client 68K [X] Hotline Client PPC [X] Hotline Server 68K [X] Hotline Server PPC [X] Hotline Tracker 68K [X] Hotline Tracker PPC I understand that I do not need the tracker to get a listing of active servers. Thanks Garry ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: GETTING B20 BY MAIL From: Adam Hinkley Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 17:19:49 +1100 Okay, ignore everything else you've read. To have b20 automatically mailed to you when it is released, subscribe to the appropriate mailing list following. To subscribe, send a message to: requests@lists.fwparker.org With the body of the message as: Subscribe XXXXXXXX Where XXXXXXXX is one of: HotlineClientPPC HotlineClient68K HotlineServPPC HotlineServ68K HotlineTrackPPC HotlineTrack68K If you want to subscribe to multiple lists, you will have to use SEPARATE messages - you cannot combine the commands into one message. ____________________________________________________________________ Adam Hinkley, developer of Hotline ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Totally new idea!!! From: Noah Daniels Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 01:43:13 -0500 >>>>No one would delete it IF it was in a place they rarely go, like >>>>HD:System Folder:Preferences:Hotline: >>>>I know newbies and non-pros have a way of deleting things they shouldn't >>>>but this should be all clear. >>> >>>Sure, the newbies won't delete it. But newbies don't cause problems and >>>don't need to be banned. >>> >>>The people that need to be banned are the ones who will quickly discover >>>that deleting the preferences file gets around the ban. > >>yeah, but what if you made the prefs file a *invisible* file, that is also >>named like 'sex___MASTER Prefs' er somethin..... > >That wouldn't do much good, there is a law that says that a program can not >make invisible files without telling the user(like in a read me doc) and >there are a number a programs that can find invisible files and delete >them. Hmm.. where does a read me doc mention the Desktop DB and Desktop DF files for MacOS? I don't recall seeing any - I think I'll sue Apple :-P -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "'Internet' is the 'snausage' word of the 90's." - Ben Vigoda '96 "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Totally new idea!!! From: pramsey@mail.tds.net Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 01:55:48 -0400 >>That wouldn't do much good, there is a law that says that a program can not >>make invisible files without telling the user(like in a read me doc) and >>there are a number a programs that can find invisible files and delete >>them. > > >Hmm.. where does a read me doc mention the Desktop DB and Desktop DF files for >MacOS? I don't recall seeing any - I think I'll sue Apple :-P Its not a very inforced law, like the copyright on video tapes but there is a law so its best for someone just starting out like hinks not to fuck with it. - - - - _ _ | | | | __| |__ ________ ________ __| |__ ________ ________ |__ __| | ____ | | ____ | |__ __| | ____ | | ____ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ---- | | ---- | | | | ---- | | ---- | -- -------- ------| | -- -------- ------| | __ | | __ | | \ \__| | \ \__| | \____| \____| pramsey@mail.tds.net togtog@hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- End of The Hotline Users Digest --- Internet Message Header Follows --- Received: from macline.fwparker.org by bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.0) id EAA05744; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:03:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199702110903.EAA05744.5744@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> From: The Hotline Users Mailing List To: The Hotline Users Mailing List Subject: The Hotline Users Digest #37 - 02/11/97 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 97 03:00:01 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: Bulk X-ListServer: LetterRip 1.0.1 by Fog City Software, Inc.